今天这篇文章超级长,我整理了一周,眼睛快瞎啦。为了照顾一些不明所以的朋友,再重复简单介绍一下之前的情况:2018年12月FIG(国际体操联合会)正式把跑酷运动收编,紧接着今年4月6-7号在成都举办了2019第一站跑酷世界杯,前几天在日本广岛结束了第二站,6月1、2号在法国蒙彼利埃收官战。最后积分排名第一的人将获得7000欧元(5万3人民币)的奖金。
全球跑酷圈对于FIG的行为早已分成两派,一是力挺派、一是抵制派。举办跑酷世界杯对于运动员来说是一个展现自我、获取殊荣的平台,所以支持的人不仅能周游列国、花式炫技,还能获得FIG提供的经费支持。而谴责FIG窃取跑酷成果的人自然就看不惯他们的行为,感觉自己热爱的运动在体制内被糟蹋得面目全非。
以下内容翻译自前几天吵得沸沸扬扬的热门事件,关于跑酷运动的发展前景以及FIG插手跑酷后所面临的问题。为了方便大家阅读,黑色字体为原文,红色字体是我的注解。
事情的起因从英国Storror跑酷团队的主力Callum Powell发了一条Diss FIG的INS开始:
英国跑酷运动员Callum Powell:
Parkour competition, coaching, gyms and above all culture is in troublewhen FIG are dangling €7000 carrots in front of athletes. There are a lot ofpoor, easily corruptible athletes out there that know the chance of makingpodium is very high because anyone with REAL skill and class wouldn’t dream ofgoing for the low hanging fruit and selling out their sport. But at least theseathletes are involved with the FISE events and can steer the will of the wholeInternational Olympic Committee, right? They’ll listen for sure. And thank godwe have the likes of David Nelmes to make sure they do things in the bestinterests of the entire Parkour community...
Seriously though, needless to say, the people we all know are the real topcontenders for speed and style competitions deserve our full respect for notcaving in and taking part in these events. It is fucking hard to make a livingdoing Parkour right now and I don’t think enough people appreciate thesacrifice these guys are making deciding to not take part and take these hugecash prizes. Hats off to you guys。
“跑酷比赛、教学、场馆和所有跑酷圈子都在FIG 7000欧的奖金下陷入了纠结。有许多穷困且心志不坚定的运动员知道这个比赛获奖的概率很高,因为那些拥有真正技术的顶级运动员是不会为了这一点点甜头就贱卖自己热爱的运动。但个别高手也参与了FISE的活动(指的是两周哥、DK、Joe Scandrett、Pedro Salgado他们3月去了FISE在沙特阿拉伯举办的Parkour | FISE Battle of the Champions 2019冠军之战的活动)而且可以引导整个国际奥委会的想法,不是吗?然后谢天谢地我们还有David Nelmes(英国老将,力挺FIG,成都站竞速赛第一)这样真正为整个跑酷圈谋福利的人...
当然无论如何,那些我们耳熟能详,以速度和风格著称的顶级选手,不管他们决定参不参与这个赛事,我们都要给他们足够的尊重。现在靠跑酷谋生真的太难了,我认为那些决定不向巨额奖金低头的人,他们所付出的牺牲并没有得到足够的赞赏,向你们致敬。”
以上言论一出,许多老将纷纷留言。
英国跑酷运动员David Nelmes:
lol just like AOM, very soon, everybody will be trying tojoin these comps. & many already want to join, with ‘REAL’ skill... Iunderstand you have a different opinion & worries, but you don’t have toattack the athletes personally by implying we don’t have ‘real skill’, whenmost of us clearly do. Many of the top Freestyle contenders in the sport AREhere.
“其实我觉得就像AOM一样,很快大家都会争相参加这些活动。很多人已经想参加了,而且是拥有真正技术的人...我理解你有不同的看法和担忧,但你也没必要人身攻击别的运动员,说我们没有真正的技术,而显然我们中的大部分人是有的,很多世界级大神都来了。”(指的是DK、Phosky、乌克兰冠军Alexander Titarenko等等)
澳大利亚跑酷运动员Brodie Pawson:
You’re pretty close minded bro... With athletes steering them is better than without athletes! I can see why there is a lot of hate surrounding these events but I don’t see why you have to call out people in such a hateful way? Come on surely you see why people are going to these events? And come on they would definitely give you a run for your money in a speed comp.
“兄弟,你要多接受一下新的事物,想开一点。有跑酷运动员引领着参加比赛总比没有的好。我知道为什么大家对这件事比较愤怒,但是我不知道为什么你要仇视运动员?你肯定知道他们为什么会去参加比赛,而且他们肯定会给你钱,如果你能在竞速赛跑一次。”
美国跑酷运动员盖伦·陈Calen Chan:
I've been thinking a lot about the option of joining theircompetitions recently, and I have had many mixed feelings obviously. The reasonI got into Parkour was not because of the competition, but it was because ofthe opportunity to meet up with friends and train together, and to progress andlearn together. When I started I was completely satisfied as I got to trainwith all my friends in Utah, but after Art of Motion I met many new people andmade new friends from different parts of the world, and now I wouldn't be ableto see them all unless I was at a big event or competition. Growing up, myfamily has been in poverty and I haven't been able to make nearly enough tolive on my own, let alone travel the world all the time to visit my friends. AsI see many of my friends at these FIG competitions I sit at home discouragedthinking "Man I wish I was hanging out with them." and realize thatparticipation in those competitions would enable me to see my friends moreoften dispite my financial situation.
“最近一直在考虑要不要参赛,显然我的情况比较复杂。我玩跑酷不是为了比赛,而是可以认识新的朋友,一起训练,一起学习和进步。刚开始玩的时候非常开心,在参加Art of Motion之后,认识了许多来自世界各地的新朋友,而现在根本见不到他们,除非参加大型的活动或赛事。从小到大我的家庭就比较穷困,也没有足够的经济独自生活,更不用说到世界各地去找他们一起玩耍。当我看到许多朋友都在参加FIG的比赛时,坐在家里很丧的我就会很想跟他们一起玩。然后我意识到目前财务状况很糟糕,但参加比赛就能让我经常看到这些老友们。”
Recently my drive to do Freerunning has been dropping mostlybecause of the discouragement of not being able to afford flying myself out tobig jams and events, and missing that hype of getting to throw down and watchmy friends throw down, celebrating all of the hard work we've put intodeveloping our skills and style, supporting each other through it, remindingourselves how much we love to be together and move. Weather they have greedy intentionsor not, if FIG is going to be a vehicle for me to satisfy what got me intoParkour in the first place, then sign me up. I know the reputation of anyonewho decides to look into it is at serious risk throughout most of thecommunity, but life and Parkour is about taking calculated risks and beingwilling to accept the consequences of our choices. I really do respect youropinion and I love you as an athlete regardless of your opinion of me if Idecide to make this choice. That's my few bits, haha.
“最近我跑酷的动力都有所下降,主要就是因为买不起参加大型聚会和活动的机票,然后怀念那段自己拼命训练的时光,看着朋友们拼命训练的冲动,庆祝我们艰难训练后获得的技能和成就,提醒自己我们所热爱的就是能在一起跑酷。不管他们是否有利益的目的,如果FIG能满足我从事跑酷的初心,那我也加入。我知道选择参赛的人,对在圈子的名声有非常不好的影响,但生活和跑酷就是在不断冒险,并勇于承担相应的后果。我很尊重你的观点,不管你对我这个选择的看法如何,我都依然尊重你。这就是我要说的几个点,哈哈。”
英国跑酷运动员Tim Champion:
Do you think the absence of a few skilled practitioners from these competitions will change the outcome of what FIG intends to do?
“你认为这个比赛没有顶尖高手的支持就会改变FIG的做法吗?”
英国速度小王子Joseph Henderson:
I’m less and less convinced it will have any negative impact on the future of parkour. Respect for anyone pushing themselves in the sport. Fxxk politics.
“我不怎么觉得这件事会给跑酷的未来带来负面影响。尊重那些不停想让这项运动进步的人。和谐”
原文链接:https://www.instagram.com/p/BwmwYatHY5X/
好的,以上是Callum Powell的内容引发的讨论,接下来是今天的正文,也就是Joseph Henderson在看完Callum Powell的INS后发布了一篇《致跑酷人的一封信》
POST FOR PARKOUR PEOPLE
致跑酷人的一封信
What are your thoughts on FIG?
你是如何看待FIG的?
While I stand by my decision to be cautious, decline getting involved in previous FIG events and encourage others to do the same - I am increasingly less convinced by the arguments that once persuaded me.
My current thinking is that it is far too much to ask of athletes to turn down one of very few opportunities to have a sustainable career in parkour, for the sake of what are only hypothetical dangers to a few gym-owners, event-organisers and coaches trying to do the same.
Rather, I would encourage athletes to go where the money and opportunities are and sustain their lifestyles while simultaneously doing everything they can to support grassroots events and competitions.
虽然我依然坚持之前的决定,拒绝参与前段时间FIG的活动,并鼓励其他人也这样做,但我现在越来越难以说服自己。
我目前觉得因为只是有可能出现的一些风险,就要求运动员放弃一个很难得可以获得持续跑酷生涯的机会,这样做有点太过火了。而一些场馆负责人,赛事组织者和教练也在尝试做同样的事情。
相反,我现在会鼓励运动员去追逐金钱和机会所在的地方,维持他们的生活方式,并尽可能地参与民间的活动和赛事。
My fear is that top athletes boycotting these events and committing only to the grassroots competitions that barely have enough prize money to cover the cost of travelling to them will lead only to athletes dropping out because they can’t afford to live or get themselves to the comps, and these events - forced to rely on flaky sponsors - will crumble anyway. Seeing competitions be cancelled and prize money drop every year has confirmed this fear.
But I am more and more certain that allowing people to follow the money will lead to growth in all parts of the sport, especially if we encourage people to be supporting the grassroots events. Which I think they will. As long as I am able to fund it, I will always fly myself out to SPL, HTB etc. because I think that what they’re doing is sick and I want to see it grow.
我害怕的是如果顶级选手抵制这些活动,而只承认那些民间赛事,只会让运动员逐渐放弃参赛,因为一般民间赛事的奖金都不足以涵盖路费,所以运动员很难负担得起参赛的种种费用。而这些被迫依赖于小赞助商的活动,也终将会面临崩溃。(比如2019瑞典AIR WIPP CHALLENGE世界跑酷锦标赛就因为经费问题面临取消,为什么取消我之前已经说了,没看过可以点击蓝色文字跳转)看着这么多比赛的取消和奖金的逐年降低,也从侧面证实了我害怕的事情。
而我越来越确信,如果让人们追逐奖金将会给这项运动的各个方面带来发展,特别是如果我们也想鼓励人们支持民间活动的话。这一点我还是挺相信的。只要我能够找到,我就会飞过去参加比如SPL、HTB等各项赛事。因为我觉得他们做的事情很屌,我想看到他们的发展壮大。
My primary concerns with FIG becoming the international governing body for parkour have always been that:
1. FIG will decide the content of the qualifications required to be insured to coach parkour.
2. FIG will have great influence over the image of parkour and be in a position to shape the culture.
我对于FIG成为国际跑酷管理机构后,所关注的点:
1.FIG将会决定成为跑酷教练所需要的资格考察内容;
2.FIG将会对跑酷运动的形象造成极大的影响,并处于一个塑造跑酷文化的重要位置。
However:
1. I believe when it comes to all the official stuff like coaching qualifications, the bureaucracies that make them happen are always going to be a shit show and something you just have to deal with if you want to go down that route. Bite the bullet, do a bullshit course to get a certificate, then continue doing what you know. I don’t trust Parkour UK in this regard (or any other would-be governing body) any more than I trust FIG.
2. I firmly believe that groups like Storm, Storror, Motus, Farang, Brewman, WHAT, GUP, Phat, THC, EQNX documenting their training and lifestyle and expressing themselves artistically will always have a greater influence on the culture than any competition league or governing body. Just as in skateboarding, snowboarding, surfing and climbing - competition will always be something additional to parkour, never all-encompassing
然而:
1,我相信当出现了类似于教练资格官方认证时,这种体制内的规则运作肯定会是一次糟糕的体验,但如果你要走这条路的话就不得不面对它。咬紧牙关,完成一个傻逼课程,最后得到一本证书,然后继续做你想做的事情。相比之下,我对Parkour UK(或是其他可能的跑酷管理机构)的信任,一点也不比我对FIG的信任多。
2,我坚信Storm、Storror、Motus、Farang,、Brewman、WHAT、GUP、 Phat、THC、EQNX这些团队对自己的训练、生活方式和跑酷艺术的展现以及他们对跑酷文化的影响将会比任何赛事联盟或管理机构都要大。就像滑板、单板滑雪、冲浪和攀岩一样——比赛将永远只是跑酷的一部分,不可能一方独大、包揽一切。
I see more potential for damage in the virality-seeking behaviour of some athletes understandably trying to build followings to sustain themselves. Memeifying parkour with lame videos that are the antithesis of the culture that I know and love.
我发现一些运动员寻求病毒式传播的行为可能会造成更大的损害,(这里在暗讽那些爬楼作死的人)可以理解的是他们想要成名来维持自己的生活,但用一些拙劣的视频来炫技,这和我所了解并热爱的跑酷文化是截然相反的。
Joseph Henderson的这条INS同样引起了强烈关注和评价,下面我收集部分运动员的意见。
加拿大跑酷运动员Elijah Jennett:
Competing makes money for you, and maybe inspiration for others to try.
Coaching makes money for you, but gives people the tools needed to do parkour.
Which of those sounds like a job that truly benefits the discipline itself?
Its easy for people to talk about these competitions and the impact they have on our discipline, but its our jobs as individuals to think about how we are affecting the discipline. Please dont volunteer gyms and coaches as your leverage for justifying competing with fig.
As someone who has coached for 13 years, please speak for yourself as an athlete and dont bring down those that are contributing to the future growth of the sport by sharing it with the youth. I firmly believe that my life experience has led me to be a great coach, and share parkour with our youth in its truest nature. I don’t believe that fig in this lifetime could ever do the same.
“比赛可以给你带来金钱,但或许也会给别人带来尝试的动力。
教学可以给你带来金钱,但这也是带领人们进入跑酷的工具。
哪一种听起来更像是促进这项运动本身发展的工作呢?
人们很容易就会说这些比赛和比赛带来的冲击会对这个项目有影响,但我们的工作就是以个人的视角去思考我们如何去影响这项运动的专业发展。请不要自觉就把评定比赛的关键权交给FIG。
作为一个从事教学13年的老将,请为自己发声,不要让那些正在为这项运动的未来而奋斗、尝试把他分享给年轻一代人所失望。我坚信我的生活经历把我塑造成了一个伟大的教练,而把跑酷分享给年轻一代就是其中最宝贵的本质体验。我不相信FIG能在它的历程中做到同样的事情。”
德国跑酷运动员Jonas Nußbaum:
It's not about the ones who want to make a living trough Parkour, it's about the whole community and the newer generation.
“这不是关于那些想靠跑酷谋生的人,而是关乎整个跑酷圈和新生代,所以决不妥协。”
波兰跑酷运动员Daris:
I think people are protesting FIG because it seems like they’re trying to skew and change parkour into a more rigid discipline like gymnastics and at the end of the day it’s not, nor will ever be gymnastics. We all want to make money doing the thing that we love but that doesn’t mean we should go along with a group like FIG just because they’re the ones offering these opportunities. At the end of the day I think that continuing to support FIG as part of the parkour community may only end up skewing the idea of what parkour really is to future generations.
“我认为人们抵制FIG,是因为它似乎在把跑酷扭曲和转变成一种更严谨,类似于体操的东西。但最终跑酷不是体操,也永远不可能是。我们都想通过自己热爱的事情赚钱,但那并不意味着我们就要向FIG这样的组织妥协,就因为它们提供了赚钱的机会。
最终是否要继续支持FIG作为跑酷圈的一部分,就在于你想给新生代塑造一个怎样的跑酷理念了。”
英国跑酷运动员Adam Dore:
I think the problem is even if you're just going to FIG events for personal gain, you're still ultimately supporting FIG in their goal. If FIG get their way there is a very real possibility that the grassroots events will die out, the 'unofficial' events are even less likely to get money going to them than they are now, most of the money in the sport will be in control of FIG rather than in control of the community, and we would have to share that with the other Gymnastics disciplines.
“我觉得即使你为了个人目的参加了FIG的活动,你最后依然不会支持FIG的做法。如果因为民间赛事的消亡而让FIG趁机上位的话,以后“非官方”的活动将会比现在更难以获得资金支持。绝大部分的资金都会落入FIG的掌控,而脱离跑酷圈的控制。并且我们还得和其他体操项目共享这些资金。”
If you look at snowboarding as an example, they went through the same thing that we're going through now, and from what Ive read the grassroots competition provider is way less successful than the world cup run by the skiing federation. Equally, Skateboarding is going through the same thing right now, and when a sport as successful as theirs with a long and rich culture is as upset (from what I can tell) at what's happening, you have to think that we should be quite worried about our future. Long term I think it's far better to do what we can to not support FIG and ensure that we create our own opportunities within the sport.
“我们来看一下滑雪运动的例子,他们也经历了我们正在经历的事情。就我所知民间赛事赞助方所取得的成功远远比不上滑雪联合会举办的世界杯。同样的,滑雪正在经历同等的遭遇,而这样一项如此成功且历史悠久、文化丰富的运动(据我所知就是如此)都在经历如此难堪的遭遇,你有理由相信我们也得好好担心一下跑酷人的未来了。从长远来看,尽可能不去支持FIG,从而确保我们自身在这项运动中挖掘的机会和价值,这样的选择会好很多。”
原文链接:https://www.instagram.com/p/BxSaeKCDHNT/
好的,巴拉巴拉看完这么多,可能你也跟我一样,感觉好累啊,我们为什么要去在意这些乱七八糟的事,好好玩跑酷不就行了吗?对此我采访了三位关注这件事的中国跑酷运动员,一起看看他们的想法。
西安元社团李雨哲:
从运动员来看,一线大神对体联的赛事并不感冒。也反映了跑酷目前的尴尬处境。但总体来说本次赛事对跑酷的推动意义不可否认。简单来讲,跑酷如果需要主流社会对自身文化的认可则必然符合主流社会的规则及地区文化。体联代表主流规则,而跑酷运动员们代表自由的文化意识形态。主流规则一方面摆出高姿态美其名曰推动跑酷运动发展,却在规则制定的同时没有顾及到跑酷运动员们代表的跑酷文化。而跑酷运动员们则只会指责和嘲讽。没有学会用正确的方式方法和主流规则进行有效沟通协调。
跑酷跟主流规则一直存在各种各样的问题。比如Storror也一直没有解决其行为本质上是违法的问题。跑酷进入中国十多年了,国人的认知还停留在高危极限等层面。问题一直存在,但原因只有一个。说到底,主流规则和运动员们都还有很多事情没有做好。现在想要做的是如何努力去解决问题,而不是相互指责和无脑喷。任何一个项目的发展都要站在一个拉长的时间轴上看,步子迈大了,容易扯着蛋。
主流规则应该以更开放更包容的心态和态度跟运动员代表们协商沟通。运动员们则需要在除去训练的其他各个方面更加努力去完善整个行业的每一个空白职能部门。眼下就应该干好眼下的事儿。如果我们对这个世界还有欲望,那么我们的价值依然是由别人决定的,不管你愿不愿意。但我跑酷九年了,我深爱跑酷,我愿意为跑酷发展寻求一些有实施可能性的解决方案,并积极解决与主流文化碰撞的各种问题。我们一起努力,跑酷一定会越来越好。
杭州2S团队沈鑫阳(在美留学生):
我个人觉得这件事的本身出发点是好的,但由于金钱的奖励过高,使一部分跑酷运动员选择为了钱去参加比赛,而不是为了提升自己的技术与社交。所以,这件事的好坏取决于运动员本身参加比赛的意图。
FIG举办这么盛大的跑酷Party,众多高手云集,这其实是一个很好的机会使跑酷的训练者获得更多的计划来提升自己。但是Callum之所以会觉得这个比赛不好是因为像他们这种在顶尖的职业跑酷运动员,其实夺冠且拿到奖金并不是很难,但这样的意义就变了。
总体来说,只要参赛者本身是为了提高自己,这就是个好的活动,并且也不会有人用自己的跑酷技巧通过赢得竞赛来赚钱吧。而且每一次在大型竞赛上多多少少能遇见来自各个团队的人,通过比赛互相认识,交流并且保持联系,其实也促进了跑酷圈的发展。(假老外说的话也带有英式中文的感觉)
无敌翻译谢华礼:
作为中国一名跑酷翻译师,我在网上看了很多关于FIG对跑酷发展是利是弊的看法,现在总结几点我看到的信息供大家参考。
首先是跑酷圈的一个大体看法是抵制FIG的,主要是因为FIG要插手跑酷的规范化——也就是将跑酷纳入一个类似于体操的评估系统中,有完整的技术动作和教练系统。这对崇尚自由的跑酷运动员来说无疑是上了一个沉重的枷锁,特别是一些顶尖跑酷大神,他们往往把跑酷提升到了生活哲学的层面,如果突然要他们按规定的体系来,按部就班地去完成规定的动作,这肯定会让跑酷失去很多色彩。所以初期几乎大家都是一致否定的。
但这个局面正在慢慢改变。首先是因为一个最现实的问题,那就是钱的问题。靠跑酷谋生听起来很美好,但实际上除了那些顶级的团队可以活得很潇洒,大部分人都过得很惨淡,甚至连参加比赛的路费都负担不起(民间赛事的奖金规模不足以支撑选手的路费)。而FIG的出现给他们提供了一条出路,巨额的奖金(当然这一点也是很多跑酷大神诟病的一点)很是诱人。第二个就是部分跑酷大神开始去积极地加入到这一项赛事中,并开始散播一些正面的言论。正如David Nelmes所说肯定会有越来越多的人加入到FIG的赛事中,这就是趋势。
在我看来,这个趋势确实会越来越火。毕竟被官方承认总归是好的,因为会有更多的资金和资源流入跑酷这项运动,也意味着更多的媒体曝光机会,会让更多的人感受到这项运动的魅力。而另一方面,关于FIG和民间赛事的关系,我很赞同Joseph的观点,官方肯定会带动民间赛事的发展,有官方大神就会有民间高手,特别是跑酷这一运动会更明显,民间的顶级团队比如Storm、 Storror这些团队肯定还是会给跑酷文化带来积极深远的影响。官方是不可能一家独大的,跑酷的血液里就流淌着自由和不屈,所以这一点毋庸置疑。
再者,一些顶级选手的参赛从另一个角度来看,他们也可以对FIG产生积极的影响。FIG的规则也是人制定的,总归不会让一群门外汉去生搬硬套,所以这个时候跑酷大神们就可以发挥自己的作用了,虽然他们可能会背负一段时间的骂名,但这项工作肯定是要有人去做。积极地去应对和引导国际奥委会,这也是一份伟大的工作。至于最终的结果会导向何方,这就不得而知了,但一味地逃避和苛责肯定不是最好的办法。
你可以有自己的立场,但你没必要去诋毁别人。当趋势来临时,选择拥抱支持它是勇敢的,选择不随波逐流坚守自我也是好样的。
以上就是我的看法。
好吧,相信你看到这里已经跟我一样眼睛疼到想滴眼药水了,那我就不啰嗦了,之前写过一篇“假如2019成都跑酷世界杯找了洁癖男”,里面都说得差不多了,国内的爱好者都在底下评论发表各自观点。这次主要把国际上对于此事的运动员的意见做了翻译,至于不关注的可以忽略,跑酷的未来在谁手上不重要,重要的是我们玩得开心就好。
来源公众号:洁癖男爱跑酷 原创:Joseph Henderson
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